tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post7531189426883651888..comments2023-11-03T04:29:29.498-04:00Comments on Paleo-Future: The Predictions of a 14-Year-Old (Milwaukee Excelsior, 1901)Matt Novakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09360406896692501416noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-86171832749027510032008-01-07T03:02:00.000-05:002008-01-07T03:02:00.000-05:00Also, the skyscraper "prediction" reflected nothin...Also, the skyscraper "prediction" reflected nothing more than the recent advances(early 1890's) in building that used steel to create taller buildings, starting with the Monadnock Building in Chicago in 1891. It was a big deal then.<BR/><BR/>Some of you would benefit from turning off cable tv/youtube and going thru an old book store. <BR/><BR/>These predictions are like saying "someday we'll have robots" <BR/><BR/>Wow, look at me, I am genius now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-62047218485801440942008-01-07T02:42:00.000-05:002008-01-07T02:42:00.000-05:00As someone who collects old medical books from thi...As someone who collects old medical books from this period, this kid was not a genius but rather just parroting the "medical electricty" rage of the times. Nothing more. Medical electricity was touted for everything in the late 1800's and early 1900's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-19272576730138308082007-09-11T07:33:00.000-04:002007-09-11T07:33:00.000-04:00I think the kid also predicted that there would be...<B>I think the kid also predicted that there would be clueless left wing ideologues who refuse acknowledge the real threats to peace and freedom. (i.e. islamic fundamentalists, Iran, Venezuela),<BR/>because it might ruin their standing among the militant, socialist "progressives" who inhabit the campus coffee houses.</B><BR/><BR/>Wow, stop being feeded by the media, kiddo, there's a real word outside of your brain. Venezuela a threat to peace and freedom? Our president is not called Bush and is not trying to invade your country for oil. Come and see, on your own, the social reality and the massive support Chavez has from his country, otherwise keep being ignorant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-45201644865049645882007-09-01T18:50:00.000-04:002007-09-01T18:50:00.000-04:00Warren: "ECT kills, that's the bottom line."THIS I...Warren: "ECT kills, that's the bottom line."<BR/><BR/>THIS IS TRUE, NOBODY HAS EVER SURVIVED ECT, EVER.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-7125591414473020072007-05-27T18:42:00.000-04:002007-05-27T18:42:00.000-04:00the_big_wedding said... Very cool...I especially l...<B>the_big_wedding said... <BR/>Very cool...I especially liked the prediction: <BR/><BR/>"In 2001 a small criminal cabal within the state intelligence/governmental apparatus of the United States will use a dramatic clandestine state-sponsored terrorist act to create a faux terror war; and then through the fear created impose a draconian economic regime designed to loot the public wealth and infrastructure; and put into place a police state structure to protect the power they obtained through this contrive terror war."<BR/><BR/>Boy, this kid was some kinda genius!</B><BR/><BR/>I think the kid also predicted that there would be clueless left wing ideologues who refuse acknowledge the real threats to peace and freedom. (i.e. islamic fundamentalists, Iran, Venezuela),<BR/>because it might ruin their standing among the militant, socialist "progressives" who inhabit the campus coffee houses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-78427737626282815762007-04-29T16:28:00.000-04:002007-04-29T16:28:00.000-04:00rickl said...I like how he said that we would see ...rickl said...<BR/><BR/>I like how he said that we would see "collisions in the clouds". He was referring to airships, not heavier-than-air airplanes, but he realized that accidents do happen and will continue to happen in the future.<BR/><BR/>Most "futurists" are either of the utopian or dystopian variety. This kid was pretty well grounded in common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-75438668027656738222007-04-29T11:33:00.000-04:002007-04-29T11:33:00.000-04:00ECT does seem primitive; however it works quite we...ECT does seem primitive; however it works quite well on MDD that isnt responding to anything else..<BR/>And really, where are our personal flying machines? Id like one please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-87159394241341030052007-04-29T04:00:00.000-04:002007-04-29T04:00:00.000-04:00The pain of any psychiatric treatment has to be co...The pain of any psychiatric treatment has to be compared with the most common treatment of all (for severe cases): imprisonment. Treatments may all have side effects, but those side effects are often less serious than those resulting from prison rape.Cliff Hangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985491924864773413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-89395627021622790752007-04-06T23:24:00.000-04:002007-04-06T23:24:00.000-04:00As noted in the article, the study was several tim...As <A HREF="http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/2007/03/electroconvulsive-therapy-causes.html" REL="nofollow">noted in the article</A>, the study was several times larger and longer than previous studies on the subject. <BR/><BR/>Not shorter than usual, longer.<BR/><BR/><I>The six-month study followed about 250 patients in New York City hospitals, <B>an unusually large number</B>; most ECT studies are based on 20 to 30 patients. <BR/><BR/>Sackeim's previously published studies were short term, making it impossible to assess long-term effects. "However, in other contexts over the years -- court depositions, communications with mental health officials, and grant protocols -- Sackeim has claimed to follow up patients for as long as five years. <BR/><BR/>This raises serious questions as to how long he has actually known of the existence and prevalence of permanent amnesia and why it wasn't revealed until now," Andre said.<BR/><BR/>Besides finding that ECT routinely causes substantial and permanent amnesia, the study contradicts Sackeim's oft-published statements that ECT increases intelligence and that patients who report permanent adverse effects are mentally ill.</I>Sickmind Fraudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768504318756916711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-81413062371238647722007-04-06T11:58:00.000-04:002007-04-06T11:58:00.000-04:00Skyscrapers? The term wasn't even coined yet. Th...Skyscrapers? The term wasn't even coined yet. This is total BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-49416807911376697682007-04-04T22:31:00.000-04:002007-04-04T22:31:00.000-04:00SPOT ON-APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!SPOT ON-APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-50419540883032065402007-04-04T18:53:00.000-04:002007-04-04T18:53:00.000-04:00well said.well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-89105427811556225832007-04-04T16:41:00.000-04:002007-04-04T16:41:00.000-04:00Okay, people, we get it. Each one of you is so muc...Okay, people, we get it. Each one of you is so much smarter than everyone else who has posted here... You all know all the answers. Hooray for you.<BR/><BR/>But if we can break out of our (peeing) matches for just a moment and take the article at face value, we'll find a mildly amusing and typical look into the future from a voice long past. You'll see similar accounts in the Worldbook Encyclopedia series from 1967. Look up Automobile and you'll see very similar accounts to what this child predicted in 1901.<BR/><BR/>Every attempt to predict the future is going to yield mixed results as the logical progression of some technologies unfolds as expected and other, unforseeable, technologies change the face of the world in ways previously unimagined. It's the nature of the beast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-15334561415452814412007-04-04T14:28:00.000-04:002007-04-04T14:28:00.000-04:00Sounds like someone needs a little ECT/EST...and s...Sounds like someone needs a little ECT/EST...and someone else needs a little MORE. I love how you call the ppl whose LIVES WERE SAVED by it liars. (sarcasm alert) Cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-37495234908155268932007-04-04T13:08:00.000-04:002007-04-04T13:08:00.000-04:00sanktp said 5% goes through the brain.I read that ...sanktp said 5% goes through the brain.<BR/>I read that they have turned UP the voltage due to the power of the new med/drugs that make the patient unconcious/immobile. If you know anything about electricity, you know current flow is dependant on resistance(in this case).Resistance of the human body can vary wildly,and its path is a random straight line (taking the easiest/less resistant path) like a lighting strike.Maybe you had an important memory, thought, belief or idea there?<BR/>At the gas pump they have officials that go around measuring the volume used to make sure no one is stolen from. In ECT/EST who checks the machines? <BR/>If you want brain damage to feel better, get the temporary kind from alcohol.Its much safer.Mark p.s.2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10529811159862096782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-41867511939973042272007-04-04T12:42:00.000-04:002007-04-04T12:42:00.000-04:00Electrocution therapy does indeed benefit society....Electrocution therapy does indeed benefit society. Consider that multiple recent news stories detail thieves electrocuting themselves while attempting to steal copper wire.<BR/><BR/>If THAT isn't a benefit to society, I don't know what is.<BR/><BR/>Darwin heartily approves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-51027720835660733662007-04-04T10:56:00.000-04:002007-04-04T10:56:00.000-04:00kids were dumb in 1901 lolkids were dumb in 1901 lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-90369010327906362202007-04-04T09:17:00.000-04:002007-04-04T09:17:00.000-04:00Someone mentioned The psychwatch article as proof ...Someone mentioned <A HREF="http://www.ect.org/harold-sackeim-reverses-position-in-upcoming-study/" REL="nofollow">The psychwatch article</A> as proof that ECT caused long-term memory loss (the article is from Jan 07). But they neglected the part where the researcher only studied memory effects over six months or <I>less</I> (where common sense would say it takes a week to three <I>years</I> to regain memory) and "he used his grant money largely to compare different types of ECT to each other, not to examine the effects of ECT; and only less than a handful of his 200+ published studies used normal controls, an absolute necessity to isolate the effects of ECT." This is a researcher who took ten million dollars over the past 25 years and waited until they stopped giving him so much grant money to say, hey, ECT's bad...gimme more money and I'll tell you why. I understand that he's the top researcher when it comes to ECT--but that's only because he's received the most money to study it, and that does not mean that he's an ethical man or that his conclusions should be taken above all the rest of the research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-63657733584331160842007-04-04T05:59:00.000-04:002007-04-04T05:59:00.000-04:00sorry but jetsons seems to get more things right t...sorry but jetsons seems to get more things right then this kid..1901..hmm mayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-71561293661963593792007-04-04T04:55:00.000-04:002007-04-04T04:55:00.000-04:00Technology is no where close to what people would ...Technology is no where close to what people would have imagined it was...even 20 years ago.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bloggingwv.com" REL="nofollow">http://www.bloggingwv.com</A>Buckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02207688375895314933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-29632457899508664442007-04-04T04:47:00.001-04:002007-04-04T04:47:00.001-04:00"How is this a hoax? it is a historical piece of w..."How is this a hoax? it is a historical piece of writing and makes no mention of "seeing" the future, but merely predicting it based on whatever.<BR/><BR/>To claim that you see this as a hoax makes you a schizophrenic"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Just because it's in someone's blog doesn't make it fact. It's the internet, for Christ's sakes. It's cool, yes, but don't take it for granted that everything on the world wide web has nothing but genuine information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-37307367983511244702007-04-04T04:47:00.000-04:002007-04-04T04:47:00.000-04:00As someone who was actually GIVEN EST (i refuse to...<B>As someone who was actually GIVEN EST</B> (i refuse to use the nice new sparkling and padded term they've given this), <B>i figure my two cents ought to be worth something here.</B> Yes, it works. You become so traumatized by the experience that you'll do anything not to have it done again, so you act happy, put on a front, even though you really don't feel that way, just to not have to experience it again. <BR/><BR/>There are also several lies i was told by the doctors, and are points that i've seen brought up here to excuse this medieval barbershop quackery. <B>1:</B><I> You will experience a little bit of temporary amnesia as a result of this process.</I> 5 years later i still have massive chunks of my memory missing, events described to me in detail by friends or relatives who were there with me of which i have absolutely no recollection. <B>Lie number 2:</B> <I>You won't feel any pain</I>. Utter Bullshite. If they get the dose of muscle paralyser you are given correctly, you will still feel extremely sore after each session, and your head will feel like you ran headfirst into a brick wall at top speed for the next 12-36 hours. If they mess up the dose <I>a little</I>, as happened more than once with me, you will be in so much physical agony that dragging yourself from your bed to the lavatory is nearly impossible. This will wear off in 2-3 days, just in time for another session. <BR/><BR/>They told me it was a last resort, and supposedly i consented to it, though i had been repeatedly told by an eager doctor that it was the only hope, and in my highly medicated state (not to mention the mental duress) at the time did not have my judgement fully intact in allowing them to pump electricity into my brain, causing a seizure, 3 times a week for 6 weeks. <BR/><BR/>I don't care what anyone says about how safe, humane, and/or effective it is because they read it somewhere or heard it from some doctor, <I>i have actually experienced the procedure and it is a barbaric and inhumane practice.</I> If you say you know someone who was "saved" by it, i guarantee you they were just traumatised enough to no longer let anyone know how depressed they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-47594673994703186632007-04-04T03:07:00.000-04:002007-04-04T03:07:00.000-04:00I too, need to comment on the ECT-part. 2 years ag...I too, need to comment on the ECT-part. <BR/>2 years ago I was committed to a psychiatric hospital with severe depression. Besides medication (which I need to take today as well), I was administered 10 ECT-sessions. And I can say that without them, I would not be here today.<BR/><BR/>The electricity is not the cure, but the seizure that it provokes is. The current used today is much lower than previously and only 5% goes through your brain. The remaining 95% is routed through the skin and skull, and does not pass through the brain.<BR/>Seizures usually makes your muscles cramp up and prevent oxygen in the blood from reaching the brain. So nowadays you are given a general anestisia (?) and a muscle relaxant. No pain, no cell damage and it works!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-47488617004469035652007-04-04T01:16:00.000-04:002007-04-04T01:16:00.000-04:00He did pretty well considering this was 100 years ...He did pretty well considering this was 100 years ago.<BR/><BR/>I really need to comment on the ECT issue however. I too, thought it was barbaric. Then my dad became severely, suicidally depressed. He went through hours of therapy of all sorts, was on every med available, was committed a number of times and nothing worked. Then they tried ECT. My dad is back. He is as he was prior to the depression; it didn't harm him, destroy his brain or make him into someone else; it DID prevent him from killing himself or locking himself away from the world forever. So for you fools who denigrate ECT without doing the research (I did before I would let them touch my dad) or experiencing its result, shut up. Without it I wouldn't have a dad; I'd have a gravesite and a headstone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904461976821332291.post-81912061217510972142007-04-04T01:09:00.000-04:002007-04-04T01:09:00.000-04:00I remember watching an episode of the twilight zo...I remember watching an episode of the twilight zone. It took place in the future(1997). And man had apparently mastered human AI and space travel. And I couldn't help but laugh because here we are 2007 and we are a far cry from that. However we are making remarkable advancements in our own ways.<BR/>But i can understand where he got his predictions from. He took the popular technology from the day and overexaggerated them to the point where they seemed futuristic. It would be impossible for him to possibly predict the creations of such things like iphones, tivos etc. My laptop alone could have been the strongest laptop in the world in 1991. <BR/>Im actually considering making my own predictions to see what could happen in 10 years past.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12756478170166704093noreply@blogger.com